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A comment on the View dealt with multiple abortions and they seemed to console the woman by saying all her babies will be with her in heaven.

Did anyone else see this? I just caught a news clip of the issue.

A woman saddened over multiple abortions thinks they will meet her in heaven. If they were babies then this was murder. If they weren't babies yet how can they be in heaven? This is a delicate catch 22 isn't it?


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hmmmmmmmmm. I wonder if the babies would want to see momma then
 
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and would the babies be in adult form in heaven ?
 
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There is absolutely no doubt about the babies going to heaven. But the momma will go somewhere else if she doesn't repent.


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Bama Hama, I'm curious as to why you think there is no doubt about the babies going to heaven. I know this is harsh, but I don't see any biblical evidence that would back that claim. If there is no relationship with Christ a soul does not go to heaven, how can an unborn baby have a relationship with Jesus?

I'm not saying I think aborted babies go to hell, I just don't think there is any biblical evidence that shows that they do.


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A comment on the View dealt with multiple abortions and they seemed to console the woman by saying all her babies will be with her in heaven.

Did anyone else see this? I just caught a news clip of the issue.

A woman saddened over multiple abortions thinks they will meet her in heaven. If they were babies then this was murder. If they weren't babies yet how can they be in heaven? This is a delicate catch 22 isn't it?


the babies will be there, the better question is, will the momma that murdered them be there? unless she receives Gods grace through Christ, she aint gona be there herself and the answer is no.


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Bama Hama, I'm curious as to why you think there is no doubt about the babies going to heaven. I know this is harsh, but I don't see any biblical evidence that would back that claim. If there is no relationship with Christ a soul does not go to heaven, how can an unborn baby have a relationship with Jesus?
I'm not saying I think aborted babies go to hell, I just don't think there is any biblical evidence that shows that they do.

If you are not born alive, are you born into sin? If you can not reason to make a decision to accept Christ or reject Him are you accountable?


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Bama Hama, I'm curious as to why you think there is no doubt about the babies going to heaven. I know this is harsh, but I don't see any biblical evidence that would back that claim. If there is no relationship with Christ a soul does not go to heaven, how can an unborn baby have a relationship with Jesus?

I'm not saying I think aborted babies go to hell, I just don't think there is any biblical evidence that shows that they do.


because the young baby hasn't had a chance be tarnished by sin yet. don't have a bible near by, but pretty sure there are scriptures that support that young children who don't have the understanding of the meaning of "a relationship/salvation/being saved etc" are not going to hell.


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Many people believe that the soul does not enter the body until shortly before birth...so if an undeveloped fetus does not have a soul, how would it go to heaven.


I sure do not know...but am pro-life.
 
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Bama Hama, I'm curious as to why you think there is no doubt about the babies going to heaven. I know this is harsh, but I don't see any biblical evidence that would back that claim. If there is no relationship with Christ a soul does not go to heaven, how can an unborn baby have a relationship with Jesus?
I'm not saying I think aborted babies go to hell, I just don't think there is any biblical evidence that shows that they do.

If you are not born alive, are you born into sin? If you can not reason to make a decision to accept Christ or reject Him are you accountable?

Romans 10:9-10



Yes, see Romans 9:10-13. Before they were born God hated one and loved the other.


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Now our opponents tell you not to worry about their tax increases.

They tell you they are not going to tax your family.

No, they're just going to tax "businesses"! So unless you buy something from a "business", like groceries or clothes or gasoline ... or unless you get a paycheck from a big or a small "business", don't worry ... it's not going to affect you.

They say they are not going to take any water out of your side of the bucket, just the "other" side of the bucket! That's their idea of tax reform.

Fred Thompson

"...I've got two daughters. 9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby." -- Barack Obama
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Just curious, why was there more back story to it than that? Did she have these a while back and now realized her mistakes and that what she had done? I mean if she was just said she had to keep aborting these babies then the simple solution there is to stop. Just wondering what some of the other circumstances were.


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so you are a calvinist..you believe in predestination?


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because the young baby hasn't had a chance be tarnished by sin yet. don't have a bible near by, but pretty sure there are scriptures that support that young children who don't have the understanding of the meaning of "a relationship/salvation/being saved etc" are not going to hell.



That is what I asked, what scripture are you basing this on? I know of none. If you are referring to the age of accountability that is not scriptural, it is an old Baptist way of thinking, I believe scripture is clear that all mankind has a sin nature inherent since the fall of Adam.

Again, I’m not saying babies go to hell, I don’t believe God would do that, I just can’t find scripture to back it. The only thing that even addresses it is the account of David and Bathsheba’s child. But you wouldn’t think God would cause a child to die as He did in that account. It is pretty confusing.


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Now our opponents tell you not to worry about their tax increases.

They tell you they are not going to tax your family.

No, they're just going to tax "businesses"! So unless you buy something from a "business", like groceries or clothes or gasoline ... or unless you get a paycheck from a big or a small "business", don't worry ... it's not going to affect you.

They say they are not going to take any water out of your side of the bucket, just the "other" side of the bucket! That's their idea of tax reform.

Fred Thompson

"...I've got two daughters. 9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby." -- Barack Obama
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Bama Hama, I'm curious as to why you think there is no doubt about the babies going to heaven. I know this is harsh, but I don't see any biblical evidence that would back that claim. If there is no relationship with Christ a soul does not go to heaven, how can an unborn baby have a relationship with Jesus?
I'm not saying I think aborted babies go to hell, I just don't think there is any biblical evidence that shows that they do.

If you are not born alive, are you born into sin? If you can not reason to make a decision to accept Christ or reject Him are you accountable?

Romans 10:9-10



Yes, see Romans 9:10-13. Before they were born God hated one and loved the other.

To be honest with you I do not know the original hebrew of this text. In the study Bible I have it say's God chose to bless Jacob but not Esau. Of course in the NKJ it is stated as you say. It will take some further study.


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To be honest with you I do not know the original hebrew of this text. In the study Bible I have it say's God chose to bless Jacob but not Esau. Of course in the NKJ it is stated as you say. It will take some further study.



This is not a quote from the KJV, it is from the ESV, which is a literal translation from Greek (New Testament) to English. What translation are you using? That text seems a little weak to me, you might want to get a bible translation that actually says what the original text means, I would suggest the New American Standard Bible or the English Standard Version, both are as close as you can get to the original text in English.


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Now our opponents tell you not to worry about their tax increases.

They tell you they are not going to tax your family.

No, they're just going to tax "businesses"! So unless you buy something from a "business", like groceries or clothes or gasoline ... or unless you get a paycheck from a big or a small "business", don't worry ... it's not going to affect you.

They say they are not going to take any water out of your side of the bucket, just the "other" side of the bucket! That's their idea of tax reform.

Fred Thompson

"...I've got two daughters. 9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby." -- Barack Obama
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