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And as far as writting false information in reports. You need to show prof before you make a statement of slander. I am not talking about some one told me or I knew a guy or I heard. Bring us real prof. I am willing to bet you have nothing to show any part of this officers report was made up.


There you go again. Not having a clue what you are talking about. It became public knowledge last Friday that Kilgore falsified Johnson's police report.



Cap. I'm a little confused. All I have heard is the defense lawyer for Johnson said the video was different. Has something else come out or did I miss something?
 
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And as far as writting false information in reports. You need to show prof before you make a statement of slander. I am not talking about some one told me or I knew a guy or I heard. Bring us real prof. I am willing to bet you have nothing to show any part of this officers report was made up.


1. Slander involves the making of defamatory statements by a transitory (non-fixed) representation, usually an oral (spoken) representation. Slander does not apply to written statements. In this case, he typed his opinion, therefore it exists as a "fixed" representation. So get your own facts straight before you go spouting off pretending to be a lawyer.

2. If the person makes a statement of opinion as opposed to fact, the statement may not support a cause of action for defamation. Whether a statement is viewed as an expression of fact or opinion can depend upon context - that is, whether or not the person making the statement would be perceived by the community as being in a position to know whether or not it is true.

3. A defense similar to opinion is "fair comment on a matter of public interest". For example, if the mayor of a town is involved in a corruption scandal, expressing the opinion that you believe the allegations are true is not likely to support a cause of action for defamation.

4. Under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, as set forth by the U.S. Supreme Court in the 1964 Case, New York Times v Sullivan, where a public figure attempts to bring an action for defamation, the public figure must prove an additional element: That the statement was made with "actual malice". In translation, that means that the person making the statement knew the statement to be false, or issued the statement with reckless disregard as to its truth.

5. Obviously the report wasn't made up. It's real and exists as a matter of public record now. The facts in the report, however, appear to be grossly misrepresented.

6. You're an idiot.


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To think that the police are a great group out for the common good is the more ignorant thought. There's a reason that such a huge number of people no longer trust them for anything. To protect and serve......What a joke! I would love for ALL of them, everywhere, to spend more time with their family! Let's save some tax dollars by cutting the forces down to cover the major issues other than hiding to try to lure someone into another ticket to raise money for a city, and yes, college, town cops are terrible! They are always looking for a way to punish a college student financially.



If this is your true belief, you have some serious issues. Maybe you should do a few ride-alongs, conduct a little true research, complete a police academy, etc, before making such ridiculous claims.


1. I have serious issues?? Are you kidding? Where should I do this "true" research? How about the video that I posted in the past couple of weeks of a cop beating the hell out of a woman because she didn't do exactly what he said to do when he said to do it? How about the cop that arrested Johnson? Do you think that he was doing a great job? Go to College Station to a football game and see how long it takes for those officers to give you a ticket for PI even if you've only had a couple of drinks. Go to the Houston rodeo, get pulled over when leaving for anything, and refuse a breath test so that you can visit the various DAs that are set up in trailers in the area to convict you on the spot! Granted, these are only things in Texas, or things that I have seen on the Internet, but to state that I have issues because of my statements is absurd! To say that these cops are not out to make money for the city is also absurd! These are just a few of the things that I have learned about in the last month!

2. There are policies and procedures to follow during any time of the day, or night. If they are unable to follow these policies, then they need to find other employment.

3. What in the hell does completing a police academy have to do with anything? Everyone has their own agenda! I don't care what police training they went through, and cops are out to prove a point more than anyone that I could possibly think of at the moment.

To state that my claims are ridiculous means that you have not experienced, or listened to friends that have experienced such treatment, which is fortunate for you and yours; however, do not dismiss my claims as being ridiculous because I tend to agree with the masses that no longer trust the "law".
 
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A patrol car is nowhere to display a school car tag. The rednecks in Lee Co., GA have UGA tags on their cars and I always think it's stupid.

Good job!


RTR! It's UA against them, people. Screw the SEC.
 
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And as far as writting false information in reports. You need to show prof before you make a statement of slander. I am not talking about some one told me or I knew a guy or I heard. Bring us real prof. I am willing to bet you have nothing to show any part of this officers report was made up.


1. Slander involves the making of defamatory statements by a transitory (non-fixed) representation, usually an oral (spoken) representation. Slander does not apply to written statements. In this case, he typed his opinion, therefore it exists as a "fixed" representation. So get your own facts straight before you go spouting off pretending to be a lawyer.

2. If the person makes a statement of opinion as opposed to fact, the statement may not support a cause of action for defamation. Whether a statement is viewed as an expression of fact or opinion can depend upon context - that is, whether or not the person making the statement would be perceived by the community as being in a position to know whether or not it is true.

3. A defense similar to opinion is "fair comment on a matter of public interest". For example, if the mayor of a town is involved in a corruption scandal, expressing the opinion that you believe the allegations are true is not likely to support a cause of action for defamation.

4. Under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, as set forth by the U.S. Supreme Court in the 1964 Case, New York Times v Sullivan, where a public figure attempts to bring an action for defamation, the public figure must prove an additional element: That the statement was made with "actual malice". In translation, that means that the person making the statement knew the statement to be false, or issued the statement with reckless disregard as to its truth.

5. Obviously the report wasn't made up. It's real and exists as a matter of public record now. The facts in the report, however, appear to be grossly misrepresented.

6. You're an idiot.


One of the best posts I've ever seen... Wazzup, you've been served.


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And as far as writting false information in reports. You need to show prof before you make a statement of slander. I am not talking about some one told me or I knew a guy or I heard. Bring us real prof. I am willing to bet you have nothing to show any part of this officers report was made up.


1. Slander involves the making of defamatory statements by a transitory (non-fixed) representation, usually an oral (spoken) representation. Slander does not apply to written statements. In this case, he typed his opinion, therefore it exists as a "fixed" representation. So get your own facts straight before you go spouting off pretending to be a lawyer.

2. If the person makes a statement of opinion as opposed to fact, the statement may not support a cause of action for defamation. Whether a statement is viewed as an expression of fact or opinion can depend upon context - that is, whether or not the person making the statement would be perceived by the community as being in a position to know whether or not it is true.

3. A defense similar to opinion is "fair comment on a matter of public interest". For example, if the mayor of a town is involved in a corruption scandal, expressing the opinion that you believe the allegations are true is not likely to support a cause of action for defamation.

4. Under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, as set forth by the U.S. Supreme Court in the 1964 Case, New York Times v Sullivan, where a public figure attempts to bring an action for defamation, the public figure must prove an additional element: That the statement was made with "actual malice". In translation, that means that the person making the statement knew the statement to be false, or issued the statement with reckless disregard as to its truth.

5. Obviously the report wasn't made up. It's real and exists as a matter of public record now. The facts in the report, however, appear to be grossly misrepresented.

6. You're an idiot.




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its a tag. it aint like he's targeting alabama fans....oh, wait a minute, the conspiracy!!! he's the mastermind behind the auburn plot to bring down the alabama dynasty by making alabama football players commit crimes!!! auburn spys have inflitrated the TPD and are currently taking down the top players in the program to insure 7 in a row!!!
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I'm sorry. No officer should patrol the streets of Tuscaloosa with an Auburn tag.


I think it was that same officer I saw parked and taking a leak on Coach Bryant's statue about 4 am one morning.
 
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To think that the police are a great group out for the common good is the more ignorant thought. There's a reason that such a huge number of people no longer trust them for anything. To protect and serve......What a joke! I would love for ALL of them, everywhere, to spend more time with their family! Let's save some tax dollars by cutting the forces down to cover the major issues other than hiding to try to lure someone into another ticket to raise money for a city, and yes, college, town cops are terrible! They are always looking for a way to punish a college student financially.



If this is your true belief, you have some serious issues. Maybe you should do a few ride-alongs, conduct a little true research, complete a police academy, etc, before making such ridiculous claims.


1. I have serious issues?? Are you kidding? Where should I do this "true" research? How about the video that I posted in the past couple of weeks of a cop beating the hell out of a woman because she didn't do exactly what he said to do when he said to do it? How about the cop that arrested Johnson? Do you think that he was doing a great job? Go to College Station to a football game and see how long it takes for those officers to give you a ticket for PI even if you've only had a couple of drinks. Go to the Houston rodeo, get pulled over when leaving for anything, and refuse a breath test so that you can visit the various DAs that are set up in trailers in the area to convict you on the spot! Granted, these are only things in Texas, or things that I have seen on the Internet, but to state that I have issues because of my statements is absurd! To say that these cops are not out to make money for the city is also absurd! These are just a few of the things that I have learned about in the last month!

2. There are policies and procedures to follow during any time of the day, or night. If they are unable to follow these policies, then they need to find other employment.

3. What in the hell does completing a police academy have to do with anything? Everyone has their own agenda! I don't care what police training they went through, and cops are out to prove a point more than anyone that I could possibly think of at the moment.

To state that my claims are ridiculous means that you have not experienced, or listened to friends that have experienced such treatment, which is fortunate for you and yours; however, do not dismiss my claims as being ridiculous because I tend to agree with the masses that no longer trust the "law".



From the venom you are spewing, I would love to see your criminal history. Cop haters all sound alike. You are not wanted....are you?


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i mean, really. you told on someone? you went and told on someone? for liking your teams rival?


I'm sorry. No officer should patrol the streets of Tuscaloosa with an Auburn tag.


You know I have to actually aggree with you on this point.That car doesnt belong to that officer but to his place of employment.
The officer does NOT have the right to deface or put anything on an offical public vehicle thats paid for by the taxpayers.
I would also say the same thing if officers had an Alabama tag on the front...question is would Superman have told on the officer if it had been an Alabama tag ??


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i personally think that the tag should have been taken off the car. It deff. shows a biased opinion in my opinion.
 
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i mean, really. you told on someone? you went and told on someone? for liking your teams rival?


I'm sorry. No officer should patrol the streets of Tuscaloosa with an Auburn tag.


You know I have to actually aggree with you on this point.That car doesnt belong to that officer but to his place of employment.
The officer does NOT have the right to deface or put anything on an offical public vehicle thats paid for by the taxpayers.
I would also say the same thing if officers had an Alabama tag on the front...question is would Superman have told on the officer if it had been an Alabama tag ??



Great point....and I agree.


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Tusc. Mayor Walter Maddox was on Dunaway and Brown today talking about the TPD/UA situation on the strip. I can see why he's a politician. He did a very good job of supporting the police and he 100% supports the arresting officer of Rashad.


The Kid Mayor is not a Bama fan anyway - he was a walk-on football player for UAB - he is a politician in the worst way -- makes me want to vomit everytime I see his retarded looking smile.
 
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i personally think that the tag should have been taken off the car. It deff. shows a biased opinion in my opinion.


It should have never been on there in the first place. The Police Department should never advertise for ANY institution to include Alabama. This is one of the problems with the state of alabama...it should be a two tag state to begin with.


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No what it clearly is.....people in here think law and order is wonderful as long as it doesnt effect them or their football teams chances of winning. Same people that complain about officers speeding one day and the next complain about it taking to long to get there to help them.



Hey, my name is wazzup and I am a liberal 20 something that don't know squat.


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