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DixieH
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....if Ole Miss students don't voluntarily waive their rights to the protections afforded by the 1st Amendment:

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Ole Miss will lose fight song if fans chant 'the South will rise again,' says chancellor

By The Associated Press
November 02, 2009, 5:29PM

JACKSON, Miss. -- University of Mississippi football fans who refuse to stop chanting "the South will rise again" are on the verge of losing one of their favorite fight songs, the school's chancellor said Monday.

Ole Miss Chancellor Dan Jones said "From Dixie With Love" will no longer be played at games if fans continue the racially offensive chant.

Last month, Jones asked the band to abruptly end the tune to discourage the chant, but he says that didn't solve the problem.

Jones said fan reaction during Saturday's game against Northern Arizona would decide the fate of the song, which blends the Confederate Army's fight song, "Dixie," with the Union Army's "Battle Hymn of the Republic." It's been played for the university's band for about two decades.

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AL.com: "Ole Miss will lose fight song if fans chant 'the South will rise again,' says chancellor"


Isn't Chancellor Dan Jones guilty of the presently popular trend of social engineering?:

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Yoste said Ole Miss officials should have held a convocation for freshmen to discuss what's acceptable on campus, rather "trying to tell a bunch of 21-year-olds what they can't do."
 
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thedeuce
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How is the term "the South will rise again" racially offensive? The union DID burn down the South and they DID lose the Civil War, and they DO have the mascot REBELS? Now if it mentioned something about slavery, or blacks, or segregation I could understand, but this is just stupid.

Next thing you know they're going to want to take out the phrase "Dixie's football pride, Crimson Tide" because "Dixie" might be thought of as racially offensive. Roll Eyes


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Dr. Know
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how about keep the song and loose the football team?


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crimsontde88
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Remember when they banned Colonel Reb a few years back because he was a racist symbol, this is the same thing. Ole Miss should just change their identity to avoid this kind of garbage.


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Velvet Sky's Houseboy
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Originally posted by Dr. Know:
how about keep the song and loose the football team?


What is the Football team tied to?


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Originally posted by Velvet Sky's Houseboy:
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Originally posted by Dr. Know:
how about keep the song and loose the football team?


What is the Football team tied to?


I would guess by the tone of the article they are tied to a liberal progressive. But what do I know, it could be a tool box they are tied to. Either way they should be loosed.


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David309
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Since Mississippi is almost 40 percent black, it's pretty stupid for the students (and others) to keep trying to cling to "old South" symbols and language. IT DOESN'T MATTER what you think the words and symbols mean. A giant chunk of the people of the state find it offensive, so it's going to be polarizing. On a pragmatic level, it's something that can't help with recruiting when the vast majority of the kids you're recruiting are black. It's time for them to let go of this and move on, IMO.

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Bama2112
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Originally posted by David309:
Since Mississippi is almost 40 percent black, it's pretty stupid for the students (and others) to keep trying to cling to "old South" symbols and language. IT DOESN'T MATTER what you think the words and symbols mean. A giant chunk of the people of the state find it offensive, so it's going to be polarizing. On a pragmatic level, it's something that can't help with recruiting when the vast majority of the kids you're recruiting are black. It's time for them to let go of this and move on, IMO.

David


Really, where is you link with a Gallup poll that backs up your statement that blacks find it offensive. 80% of the population couldnt quote the preamble to the Constitution let alone be upset about the south is going to rise again. Didnt someone want to ban Rammer Jammer a few years ago? Thats more offensive to a lot of people than the south is going to rise again.

IMHO i just dont get it.... MS has bigger problems that a school fight song. Like more addicted gamblers and people filing for bankruptcy in MS than any other state and those are documented facts.
 
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Tn4Bama
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Yep, since they are so offensive to the rest of society they should change everything about themselves. They shouldn't be allowed to be called 'Rebels' and their colors should change also, that might appease the Politically Correct crowd. Far as I'm concerned let the Politically Correct Crowd kiss a rebel's azz.
 
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David309
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Originally posted by Bama2112:
Really, where is you link with a Gallup poll that backs up your statement that blacks find it offensive.


If you honestly question about whether most blacks find "old South" symbolism offensive, I don't think you've been paying attention.

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dougtalks997
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my wife and I were at the Ole Miss-Bama game again this year and when I heard "Dixie" and the phrase "the south will rise again..." I turned to my wife and said "it sure it is hard to root against a school that plays Dixie as their fight song! LOL...people who want to find things offensive will find them. The song Dixie is said to be written by slaves and "the south will rise again" doesn't really mean any thing..unless some of us are ready to seceed again...didn't work to well the first time we tried it.
 
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DixieH
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Originally posted by David309:
Since Mississippi is almost 40 percent black, it's pretty stupid for the students (and others) to keep trying to cling to "old South" symbols and language. IT DOESN'T MATTER what you think the words and symbols mean. A giant chunk of the people of the state find it offensive, so it's going to be polarizing. On a pragmatic level, it's something that can't help with recruiting when the vast majority of the kids you're recruiting are black. It's time for them to let go of this and move on, IMO.

David


Hogwash!...

Apparently, "clinging to old South symbols and language" (as you say) is a non-issue when it is put before the voters of the state of Mississippi whenever a similar issue ever comes up for a vote:

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The Confederate Battle Flag became a part of the Flag of Mississippi in 1894. In 1906, the flag statutes were omitted by error from the new legal code of the state, leaving Mississippi without an official flag. The omission was not discovered until 1993, when a lawsuit filed by the NAACP regarding the flag was being reviewed by the Mississippi Supreme Court. In 2000, Governor Ronnie Musgrove issued an executive order making the flag official. After continued controversy, the decision was turned over to citizens of the state, who, on April 17, 2001, voted 2:1 to keep the Confederate Battle Flag emblem on the state flag.

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You're really making a generalization here with no basis in fact, David..

What gives Chancellor Jones the right to engage in what amounts to a petty extortion attempt to regulate what Ole Miss students are allowed to think and say?..
 
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good move IMO. The whole idea of having your school tied to the confederacy in some shape or form, or using phrases, etc... that are easily interpreted as racist have no place in a school IMO.


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homeskillet
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Originally posted by DixieH:


What gives Chancellor Jones the right to engage in what amounts to a petty extortion attempt to regulate what Ole Miss students are allowed to think and say?..
I don't think he is telling them what they can and cannot say. He is just saying he doesn't want that image protrayed at his school's football games. I doubt he kicks students out for saying that.

Also, keep in mind, football game attendance is a privilege not a right.


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Originally posted by David309:
Since Mississippi is almost 40 percent black, it's pretty stupid for the students (and others) to keep trying to cling to "old South" symbols and language. IT DOESN'T MATTER what you think the words and symbols mean. A giant chunk of the people of the state find it offensive, so it's going to be polarizing. On a pragmatic level, it's something that can't help with recruiting when the vast majority of the kids you're recruiting are black. It's time for them to let go of this and move on, IMO.

David


Good Post.


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